Comments on: On Secret Societies and Freedom of the Press http://photogabble.co.uk/2006/12/31/on-secret-societies-and-freedom-of-the-press/ Simon's photography projects blog. Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:13:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: any man http://photogabble.co.uk/2006/12/31/on-secret-societies-and-freedom-of-the-press/comment-page-1/#comment-1004 any man Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:20:32 +0000 http://www.photogabble.co.uk/2006/12/31/on-secret-societies-and-freedom-of-the-press/#comment-1004 Yes, JFK was talking about communists but the subject of the speech was not communism. He was adressing newspapers and journalists. He first emphasized that no threat should be taken as an excuse for censorship on the press. And announced that he will not forcefully censor any newspaper. He said: "Even today[in the time of cold-war], there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation [by means of limiting freedom of people] if our traditions[freedom of speech, critisim; being an open society] do not survive with it." He talked about the dilemma between protecting the national security & protecting the freedom of speech. After that he "kindly" requested journalists to be careful and think twice about "what to make news". He did not want them to "not-object-him". He just wanted them to be careful when releasing detailed news about covert operations of the US, that caused no need for their enemies to hire agents to be informed. It seems to me that USA was a great country in his time. Look at her now... Ask Bush about the "Athenian lawmaker Solon" or "Francis Bacon" that Kennedy was talking about. I'm sure he will stare at you blankly. In order to understand clearly what he means, I advise you watch the movie "Zeitgeist" in which an excerpt from this speech is taken too. It can be downloaded freely from http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com by torrent Yes, JFK was talking about communists but the subject of the speech was not communism. He was adressing newspapers and journalists. He first emphasized that no threat should be taken as an excuse for censorship on the press. And announced that he will not forcefully censor any newspaper.

He said: “Even today[in the time of cold-war], there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation [by means of limiting freedom of people] if our traditions[freedom of speech, critisim; being an open society] do not survive with it.”

He talked about the dilemma between protecting the national security & protecting the freedom of speech.

After that he “kindly” requested journalists to be careful and think twice about “what to make news”. He did not want them to “not-object-him”. He just wanted them to be careful when releasing detailed news about covert operations of the US, that caused no need for their enemies to hire agents to be informed.

It seems to me that USA was a great country in his time. Look at her now… Ask Bush about the “Athenian lawmaker Solon” or “Francis Bacon” that Kennedy was talking about. I’m sure he will stare at you blankly.

In order to understand clearly what he means, I advise you watch the movie “Zeitgeist” in which an excerpt from this speech is taken too.
It can be downloaded freely from http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com by torrent

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]]> By: Mr. Carbon Twelve http://photogabble.co.uk/2006/12/31/on-secret-societies-and-freedom-of-the-press/comment-page-1/#comment-522 Mr. Carbon Twelve Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:01:58 +0000 http://www.photogabble.co.uk/2006/12/31/on-secret-societies-and-freedom-of-the-press/#comment-522 Thanks, I had been searching for that clip for a while. The whole speech is very complex and I am sure one could write an entire book on it, if it hasn't already been done. I shall listen to the mp3 in the morning. Again thanks for the links :) Thanks, I had been searching for that clip for a while. The whole speech is very complex and I am sure one could write an entire book on it, if it hasn’t already been done. I shall listen to the mp3 in the morning. Again thanks for the links :)

]]> By: me http://photogabble.co.uk/2006/12/31/on-secret-societies-and-freedom-of-the-press/comment-page-1/#comment-521 me Wed, 31 Jan 2007 02:49:41 +0000 http://www.photogabble.co.uk/2006/12/31/on-secret-societies-and-freedom-of-the-press/#comment-521 What you have there is only an excerpt of the actual speech located at: http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/Speeches/JFK/003POF03NewspaperPublishers04271961.htm This the the JFK Presidential Libary and Museum that also has the MP3 version of the speech. Once again, your post is sorely incomplete. Here is the MP3 link at the same site. http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset+Tree/Asset+Viewers/Audio+Video+Asset+Viewer.htm?guid={51BCDE90-AF4F-4EE9-A68E-ECC4CDE97F76}&type=Audio Once you hear the speech in it's entirety and read it in it's entirety do you realize that JFK was openly speaking of international communism, but also in a very subtle, almost imperceptible way, he was taking the opportunity to link certain secret societies willingness to take advantage of the threat here at home posed by international communism. JFK, in my humble opinion, was openly dissenting with the establishment as to certain ideological inclinations embraced within certain factions of these societies wishing to act over his personal authority and against his ideological preferences, but not to the extent that he dissented against the overall agenda: The global ideology of promoting the being of a "citizen of the world". Read and listen to the FULL text. (Side note: The irony is that all the "ism's" are linked to one or more secret societies, but they compete, and disagree as to method and implmentation, but they are consistent in that they will wash this dirty laundry behind closed doors, and never take it into the street where the common man will see it.) What you have there is only an excerpt of the actual speech located at:
http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/Speeches/JFK/003POF03NewspaperPublishers04271961.htm

This the the JFK Presidential Libary and Museum that also has the MP3 version of the speech. Once again, your post is sorely incomplete. Here is the MP3 link at the same site.

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset+Tree/Asset+Viewers/Audio+Video+Asset+Viewer.htm?guid={51BCDE90-AF4F-4EE9-A68E-ECC4CDE97F76}&type=Audio

Once you hear the speech in it’s entirety and read it in it’s entirety do you realize that JFK was openly speaking of international communism, but also in a very subtle, almost imperceptible way, he was taking the opportunity to link certain secret societies willingness to take advantage of the threat here at home posed by international communism. JFK, in my humble opinion, was openly dissenting with the establishment as to certain ideological inclinations embraced within certain factions of these societies wishing to act over his personal authority and against his ideological preferences, but not to the extent that he dissented against the overall agenda: The global ideology of promoting the being of a “citizen of the world”. Read and listen to the FULL text. (Side note: The irony is that all the “ism’s” are linked to one or more secret societies, but they compete, and disagree as to method and implmentation, but they are consistent in that they will wash this dirty laundry behind closed doors, and never take it into the street where the common man will see it.)

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